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Pharaoh ❝gg ez❞ Atem ([personal profile] puzzlekeeper) wrote2019-06-22 08:25 pm

Question Meme v. 2

10,000 COMMENTS MEANS I'VE RPed TOO MUCH so u know why not talk about that

Ask me questions, I respond and then ask you a question, etc etc we know how the tradition goes
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[personal profile] rollplayinghouse 2019-06-23 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
What are King's Maki feelings!!
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[personal profile] rollplayinghouse 2019-06-24 05:16 am (UTC)(link)
So the thing about Maki is that for all she is a very stoic and reserved person generally, it is actually pretty easy to get her to open up about herself. The basic requirements are: 1) show some empathy for her, 2) ... ask her to. It's just that doesn't happen very often because it takes a certain kind of person to do those in the face of Maki being... herself.

However! King had done 1) very first conversation, and obviously after her live did 2). Which means she did open up to him! She was extremely low at the time due to the collection of things that lead up to her doing her live, and having Intensity (among... many others) be angry at her and losing his support left her feeling extremely both distressed and alone, so even King just offering to spend some time with her was really important to her. But he also talked through things with her and asked her about her plans, and most importantly when she told him her future house pipe dream and jokingly said he could join, he both made her be honest about how serious an offer it was (not... serious in the sense that this is a thing she actually expected to happen, but serious in the sense that if it did she would genuinely want him there because she likes him) and said he might actually accept the offer. This was really important to her, because it didn't actually have to be serious at all, and so it meant something to her for him to respond that seriously. So he became abruptly way more emotionally important to her after that thread.

Then the very next day she went to talk to him about her talk with Intensity, and he was willing to help her then too. And that's when they jumped off the balcony together. Which again was really important to her, because even if she didn't know anywhere near all the details of it she could tell he was uneasy about it, but he still trusted her with his life. AS AN ASSASSIN THAT'S SUPER MEANINGFUL FOR HER.

And then yeah he adrenaline-junkie laughed after they landed while still holding her hand, and between that and the trust of jumping with her in the first place it was in fact really hot. So then suddenly he was both emotionally important to her and attractive??

So then when they talked and she told him she appreciated everything and he looked surprised, she was still feeling all that, and she really wanted to show that to him, and she had no emotional capacity left for restraint, so she just kissed him. WHICH WENT A LOT BETTER THAN SHE EXPECTED not that she really expected anything. She came away from that knowing 1) maybe King's actually slightly insecure about some things?? 2) King's hot and fun to kiss.

Which is why their conversation about not being an Intensity stand-in went as smoothly at it did. Knowing he was likely to doubt himself she made herself very clear that she liked him! But while Maki also doesn't do totally casual things well, after the last few days she was also pretty confident that they actually had a solid emotional relationship, so she didn't feel like she needed any more assurance on that.So there's no real reason for it to be "dating" or anything. This is her new policy based on the fact that dating has gone badly and not-dating is fine since she knows Intensity cares.

And it appears to be working out with King also?? He's very suddenly become important to her. She can trust him with things like revenge murder plots, she can spend time with him and it's fun, and she feels like he cares about her feelings.

And then the castle game, and King saying he had nowhere to go, and Intensity had already denied to Maki's face that he'd been worried about HSS, so Maki was mad at him and assumed he'd probably deny it to King's face too. So...! There are some points at which Maki draws a hard line on doing what she wants, and she wanted to bring King with her, and she really would have just dealt with whatever ZRAEL had to say about it because no objection they could have to her just cuddling him in her room could possibly be reason enough to leave him with nowhere to go. So apparently this is a thing they do now.

Then there's the fact that Intensity stood them up, though. SHE'S STILL... HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH INTENSITY ABOUT KING, WHICH CONTINUES TO BE VERY ROCKY. So we'll see... how that goes. Intensity appears to be upset King is important to her, and not only does Maki not really understand why, she knows that's not something that's going to change, at this point. Why can't Intensity just acknowledge feelings and be with both of them??? (Because he's like that, she knows that, she is just genuinely not sure how to deal with that in these circumstances.)


What are King's general ZRAEL feelings at this point?

[personal profile] nohalation 2019-06-23 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
RANK UNITS THAT KING TRUSTS FROM MOST TO LEAST INCLUDING HSS
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[personal profile] nohalation 2019-06-23 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Here is a question mark to make it valid

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[personal profile] crossmyheartandhope 2019-06-23 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
CR? :0
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[personal profile] crossmyheartandhope 2019-06-23 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
HURRICANE ALSO LOVES KING A LOT.

He has a lot of respect for him. He is smart, and put-together, and brave, and he somehow always seems to know what he's doing? He has a lot of traits that Hurricane appreciates. He wishes he could be more like King, tbh, especially in games, where he strongly believes that King is their backbone.

They're friends, in Hurricane's book, but he would agree that they're not especially close emotionally. Lately, it feels like the only time they see each other is in games and during team meetings that make Hurricane want to crawl under a rock and never come out again. He honestly feels like he has let King down a little on both of those fronts, and the fastest way to get Hurricane to draw into himself is to have him feel like he has let someone down in some way.

He wishes they COULD do more fun things, like dumb motorcycle races, and make that cake for Dva. He still wants to learn hieroglyphics so he can write a dumb sign for his wall. He wants those things a lot. But lately it seems like it's one awful thing after the next, and the only time he sees King is when they are putting out fires from all those awful things.

Answering the bonus question that was touched on but not specifically asked: the very best way to get Hurricane to open up is to share the type of thing you want him to be open with, without any pressure to respond in kind. Then the next time he has a problem similar to the thing that you told him about, he is infinitely more likely to go, "Oh, this person talked to me about xyz problem. It's probably okay to go to them about this problem I'm having." Example: Mori came to him and cried on him about romance problems, once. If Hurricane had a romance problem after that, he absolutely would have gone to Mori with it, because Mori is safe for that, now.

He is extremely self-conscious about letting people down or not being good enough/strong enough/brave enough/smart enough. So in a way, a lot of it is, "If this person worries about this kind of thing, too, they probably won't think less of me if I admit to it." He doesn't parse it in his head exactly like that; it's not that clear-cut. But that's what it boils down to, essentially. This logic has burned him before, pretty hard, but he still tends to veer in that direction.

The other problem he has with emotional honesty is that he frankly doesn't want to talk about bad shit all the time, because they LIVE bad shit all the time. He wants to have times when he doesn't have to deal with that. He hates dealing with that. Why would he invite more of it into his life? But depending on his mood and the circumstances, that can be overcome if the first part is in place.

What is King's dream for HSS as a team?
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[personal profile] we_meet_again 2019-06-23 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
CR ME!
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[personal profile] puzzlers 2019-06-23 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
CR ME, ONE OR BOTH OF MY NERDS.
if yugi, update b/c u did him once b4
Edited 2019-06-23 01:25 (UTC)
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[personal profile] 420blazeit 2019-06-23 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
I HAVE NO COMPLAINTS.

i have to agree, that her ill timed arrival helped rather than hurt things, which is definitely what helped get them off to a great start. she hadn't given too much of a fuck about things and had just had one hell of a time playing games with everybody. especially king. and she'll remember whooping his ass until the end of time, because that's probably one of the few times that's going to happen.

but, ok, yes, that. she tries to act like all is well 99% of the time and that memory kind of broke her. she obviously still tried to play it off, but she was kind of... not doing a good job, and the distraction from king helped. she was sad and confused and mad and just... a mess. she regrets almost getting the both of them killed... TWICE... but she needed that, and the conversation they shared in the tunnel was just... it meant a lot. getting to connect with somebody on a level like that isn't something she thought she'd ever get to do. not when she was feeling so fucken hopeless. but she left that wreck feeling a bit... safer? not the best word, but i'm having trouble wordsing. like everything could and would be ok. sure, she's dead, but fuck if she's letting that stop her. king gave her hope, basically!

and that's why she goes out of her way to try to make him happy! because there's nothing that really truly compares to that. so when he's upset or whatever she tries to get in there and turn that shit upsidedown. no. stop feeling bad dammit. not allowed. she sometimes worries she's coming on way too strong ( because she usually is ) but if the end result is a smile of any size then WORTH IT. he means a lot and she wants him to know it... and then things got a bit tricky...

she likes him. a lot. and it's like. fuck. she can't? or maybe she shouldn't. in any case when things finally crossed from let's just make out to oh fuck i have the feels she did kind of go awol. not directly at him, but, yeah, yugi got that. WHOOPS. time to scar an aibou. and then she didn't really even articulate what she wanted to either of them and she kind of locked that up. she doesn't want that stupidity to ruin what they have, so she's going to keep it to herself and maybe things will be ok on their own? or something. but in any case she'll do right by the both of them! because she gets their cute important bond.

so basically you're amazing king! and you're one of the few people she'll legit open up to without, like, holding back any. she likes you a lot, more than she thinks she should at this point, and she's confused and unsure what to do about that, but ready to let it ride and see what happens ♥

Edit: I forgot to ask a question - End game plans, since they kiiiind of touched on it in train cave.
Edited 2019-06-24 23:06 (UTC)
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[personal profile] bluescreenwhitedragon 2019-06-23 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I do in fact owe you many words.

First, let's go with parallels/transitions between ygo canon and Imeeji for 100. Early!canon Kaiba sure subscribed 100% to the whole "losing means death" newsletter. And it is only through painstaking patience and tenacity that the main cast (mostly Atem, some Yugi) manage to punt that notion to the curb. Only for the ygo manga to end with Atem's first loss and then well--- dying. And so every DSOD memory fills Intensity with not only an insane amount of grief about losing the only person he ever cared about outside his brother, but also a heaping amount of betrayal in the sense of "you taught me to believe in this shitty ideal and then it immediately failed me." And so with Imeeji being Imeeji and death being what is it here, that ideal has now warped into "I won't let death hurt me or mine." Intensity's adoptive father's teaching (who he doesn't remember) didn't work. And neither did King or Yugi's belief in friendship. But this --- this will work, because the only thing it hedges on is Intensity's denial, his ability to be ridiculous, and his ability to pierce space/time/death. All things that he is very confident about. So Intensity will devote all he has to remind King that he belongs to him and that he won't let death (true death - not fake game/Imeeji death) or King's own ridiculous sense of self-sacrifice touch him ever again. That sense of purpose is very important to Intensity because he is a very goal oriented person. And this is what he feels he can offer King in return for what King offers him. Because King is obviously not looking for a nice, reasonable, emotionally or even affectionately competent person in Intensity. He will never be these things. But protect King from certain aspects of himself - that Intensity can do.

Now onto timeline musing---!

So Hunger Games is where I left off last CR meme, and Intensity had at least come to the slow and sad realization that he couldn't just a) ignore King or b) murder him out of existence (even if he knew he wouldn't stay dead, maybe he could create enough of a gulf between them that they would just avoid each other for the rest of eternity). Nope. So then he and King play a game of cards at Angel's sleepover, Intensity gets riled up, blurts out a bunch of stuff he didn't want to and immediately retreats. Pretty standard Intensity play. And he felt pretty vulnerable around King after that - due to how many weaknesses of his that King knew (though King had reassured Intensity he wouldn't use them maliciously to hurt him) and that King always expected the worst out of him (his absolutely flabbergasted expression when Intensity bandaged up the hand after cutting him in the Social Bingo game). Cool, guess we'll just be rivals instead of Rivals. That's fine. They could still work together decently enough so maybe that would be the extent of it. Intensity may be reckless when it comes to games, but even he wouldn't play a risky move with his current hand against King's. That would be a guaranteed loss.

But then Heart Games happened and something obviously happened between Yugi and King in Nine-Nine's heart. Obviously something to do with his past, and Yugi had already shown Intensity the ceremonial duel. So he shows up later with a half-assed excuse about work and kidnaps King on his dragon. Intensity wasn't exactly sure what he was going for there. But King was obviously distressed which was prime opportunity for Intensity to provoke him. And that lead to some feelings talk, the realization the Intensity wanted King to be alive as a separate feeling of "Kaiba" wanting to bring back "Atem", and then trust falls and falling into bed together again. This time with no game instigating it. And it was nice. And comfortable. And something that Intensity wanted to continue. But still in the hazy shade of "what are we even doing?" Which means Intensity didn't think much about it for the next while as he was dealing with other issues (aka the Rift to Heaven opening).

Fast forward to auction game and King got triple amnesia. What's this? A playing field in Intensity's favor? Well damn, Intensity couldn't let the opportunity pass to fuck with King. King would pay him back with interest when he did get his memories back, so it's fine. It'd all be fine! So he introduces himself under his "real name" (in quotes because due to Trial shenanigans he actually doesn't respond to it) and pretends to be King's awful boyfriend. And it works! He gets to frustrate/fluster the fuck out of King for a bit and then life continues on as normal. King didn't even go for revenge!

Well, not until after the balloon game anyway. And it wasn't really revenge. He just oh so unceremoniously dropped Intensity on his ass and basically said "say that again but to my face this time!". And so Intensity did (in Intensity speak) and then I guess they were dueling! Go them. Back to Rivals with a capital 'R'.

Smash cut to Maki's Live and Intensity wanting to table flip all of his relationships straight out the fucking dorm window. FEELINGS AREN'T WORTH THIS POLITICAL NIGHTMARE. He vowed never to intentionally express another vulnerability again. And in the middle of this temper tantrum, King comes in to rile him up a little - Intensity doesn't really remember too many of the specifics besides "Don't ignore me". Which drove Intensity up a wall. As if he had been able to ignore King since he got here. And he tried so hard, too! He tried really fucking hard to ignore King! He'll show him that he's not ignoring King! So when the Sekhmet fiasco goes down, he is right fucking there to be devil's advocate for King. What was the Penalty Game, King? It better be up to your previous standards or Intensity will be fucking disappointed! But that also quickly devolved into attempts to power-top the other, which led to Intensity losing a game where the loser had to do whatever the winner wanted. Intensity is no stranger to these bets, and also no stranger to losing them. But he has definitely never had the outcome be -- well now his opponent is going to slowly murder him with tenderness and he is not allowed to fight back. And King tripped so many emotional land mines (that even Intensity himself had never acknowledged) that by the end he was exhausted. He has never been so physically or emotionally exhausted in his life. But King is his now(????). And he is King's. At least in some capacity. So now he gets a level-up in Intensity's special brand of fussing.

So, whew, last bullet point - castle building game. Intensity was so proud to see HSS stand up for themselves in the first round and then absolutely devastated to see their position after the second. And while he has been comfortable with just not hitting HSS before, now he knew that if they didn't do anything, they were surely going to die -- possibly horribly! Because with pep!pep! that low, he knew they wouldn't steal. So does he throw away his unit's safety for the selfish reason of he doesn't want to see King self-sacrifice himself into oblivion again? Luckily, FiN (even Erika) supported him and so they pitched in to save HSS. All for naught, though, because they still died. But that is a different moral dilemma. And he really really want to be there for King after it (since Yugi bolted and Intensity knew how it felt when Angel bolted on him) but the combination of having to admit real feelings to King, and then real feelings in front of Maki, and then real feelings by going to the ZRAEL dorm, plus having to make two worry visits (because he sure as fuck wasn't bringing the cape to ZRAEL) was too much for his small Grinch heart, so he backed out like a coward.

Sorry, King. He will still risk his life for you, but openly admitting feelings in public is still not on the table.

Now on to feelings talk.

Each of the "romances" (quoted intentionally) that Intensity has supplements for one of his own deficiencies. Man Eater understands him. Maki softens his rough edges. And Nemesis reminds him that he actually is just a teenage computer nerd (which is also why this is in constant game of straight chicken because Intensity will never acknowledge this about himself). But King -- King makes him a better person. He challenges him to always be at his best and, most importantly, he actually has the toolkit to course-correct Intensity when he's doing something wrong. He doesn't pull his punches - not when he needs to be harsh with Intensity and not when he chooses to be gentle either.

And Intensity really appreciates that - even if the words will never come directly out of his mouth ever as long as both of them shall live.

Intensity is a very cagey and retaliatory person. Expressing vulnerability usually goes hand in hand with him lashing out at the other person. And King has really been one of the people who has received the worst of it, but also is the one who manages to turn it around and successfully get to the underlying reason. He talks more with actions than words - through trustfalls and shutting him up with physical affection. He accepts Intensity's obsession - maybe even finds it endearing (sorry for your bad taste, King). And that is why he lets King touch his neck (an actual physical manifestation of his vulnerabilities) because he knows King won't intentionally hurt him or will hurt him for his own good. Because why would you want to break down your Rival? You want them to be at their best at all times. Otherwise where's the challenge?

Anyway Intensity is pretty fucking comfortable where they are right now and just wants to ride this high until something inevitably comes to break it (as that is the nature of his E-rate luck). The person more invested in something is usually the one at the most risk, and Intensity is at least self-aware enough to know that he is that person in this equation. (Unless King is keeping some card he doesn't know about close to his chest). So he'll accept that much vulnerability if it means this gets to continue. And he'll deal with the fallout if (when) this all goes to hell in a hand basket. Their Rivalry is definitely worth it.

Somewhat related, Intensity is doing his besto to avoid the landmines that is Yugi and King and now Maki and King. Yugi he's accepted as a given. And that is someone he'll have to work around at the very least. But there are things about Yugi that just grate on Intensity, which is why you sometimes have to bus him creatively! Because normal methods aren't going to work. And his little stunt is going to bite him in the ass later probably, so--- Maki, though. He is a little unnerved that King and Maki got together around the same time his relationship with King also strengthened. Is there something going on there he doesn't know about? Paranoia says yes. So right now, he'll just be really snippy and unhelpful regarding that subject until he works it out himself internally.

tl;dr King is Intensity's Rival and he will simultaneously do all he can to ensure his future while also being a grade A asshole about it. And forever bad at tender feelings even though King is so expertly able to wield them against Intensity.

Question. What are King's thoughts on how HSS should play in games now (both his inward thoughts and what he'll advise to the unit if they are different)?
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[personal profile] gigadevilbreaker 2019-06-23 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
CR me??...